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	<title>Comments on: Review &#8211; Aeromatic 1912 GMT</title>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 03:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also own a 70&#039;s Omega Seamaster. So I know a good watch when I see it. I would like the Aeromatic repaired thats all. C&#039;mon guys really, how many of us are even going to buy a watch over $1k-$2k, a few lucky guys? Some help would be appreciated for those of us that spend half that, or less. Thanks everybody</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also own a 70&#8242;s Omega Seamaster. So I know a good watch when I see it. I would like the Aeromatic repaired thats all. C&#8217;mon guys really, how many of us are even going to buy a watch over $1k-$2k, a few lucky guys? Some help would be appreciated for those of us that spend half that, or less. Thanks everybody</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 03:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was given a Aeromatic 1912 as a wedding gift. I wore it for two weeks and the glass on the underside of the watch shattered and left bits of glass imbedded in my wrist. Also a few gears rolled out when i took it off. Their website won&#039;t return any emails I send. A best friend gave me the watch, so obviously I don&#039;t want to trash it. Anybody know where i can get this thing repaired? I live in Memphis Tennessee, U.S.A.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was given a Aeromatic 1912 as a wedding gift. I wore it for two weeks and the glass on the underside of the watch shattered and left bits of glass imbedded in my wrist. Also a few gears rolled out when i took it off. Their website won&#8217;t return any emails I send. A best friend gave me the watch, so obviously I don&#8217;t want to trash it. Anybody know where i can get this thing repaired? I live in Memphis Tennessee, U.S.A.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Grogan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Grogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Jim Paradis, my two Aeromatics are going still going great after almost 3 years. I have read many online articles on so-called &#039;germ-asian&#039; watch brands over the last few years (such as Trias, Perigaum, Astbury &amp; Co, Buchner &amp; Bovalier, Adee Kaye, Aeromatic 1912 etc.) It is somewhat of a mixed bag of quality what you get. Most feature chinese mechanical or automatic movements from various factories across the country, encased in watch housings shared between all these &#039;brand names&#039;. Don&#039;t get me wrong, some chinese made watches such as the range from Arbutus of New York or Kenneth Cole are of consistantly high quality for the money. Watch movements from Seagull or Dixmont etc. find there way into some very fine watches (as regards &#039;Replica Watches&#039; don&#039;t go there) P.S. Here is a free plug for a excellent watch maker in Hong Kong w.w.w. Perpetual-Watch.com, check out there website and the straightforward honest approach they take for reworking chinese watches in classic designs. I&#039;ve just purchased a Regulator watch from them for US$130. Superb bargain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Jim Paradis, my two Aeromatics are going still going great after almost 3 years. I have read many online articles on so-called &#8216;germ-asian&#8217; watch brands over the last few years (such as Trias, Perigaum, Astbury &amp; Co, Buchner &amp; Bovalier, Adee Kaye, Aeromatic 1912 etc.) It is somewhat of a mixed bag of quality what you get. Most feature chinese mechanical or automatic movements from various factories across the country, encased in watch housings shared between all these &#8216;brand names&#8217;. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, some chinese made watches such as the range from Arbutus of New York or Kenneth Cole are of consistantly high quality for the money. Watch movements from Seagull or Dixmont etc. find there way into some very fine watches (as regards &#8216;Replica Watches&#8217; don&#8217;t go there) P.S. Here is a free plug for a excellent watch maker in Hong Kong w.w.w. Perpetual-Watch.com, check out there website and the straightforward honest approach they take for reworking chinese watches in classic designs. I&#8217;ve just purchased a Regulator watch from them for US$130. Superb bargain.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Paradis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Paradis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 02:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still have the Aeromatic 1912 Calendarium, and it is still working flawlessly. The crystal is scratched, but that is the only trouble we&#039;ve had with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still have the Aeromatic 1912 Calendarium, and it is still working flawlessly. The crystal is scratched, but that is the only trouble we&#8217;ve had with it.</p>
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		<title>By: EA</title>
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		<dc:creator>EA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need help looking up world time on 1912. Do I just set home city (Los Angeles) and 12 at the 12 o&#039;clock marker and calculate time in other cities? Since New York is three marks ahead of Los Angeles on the inner dial, do I add three to the current time, or do the dials need to move with time? Basically, is this a conversion chart? Is this how multi time zone watches work, or is there a different type of mechanism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need help looking up world time on 1912. Do I just set home city (Los Angeles) and 12 at the 12 o&#8217;clock marker and calculate time in other cities? Since New York is three marks ahead of Los Angeles on the inner dial, do I add three to the current time, or do the dials need to move with time? Basically, is this a conversion chart? Is this how multi time zone watches work, or is there a different type of mechanism?</p>
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		<title>By: fake cartier</title>
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		<dc:creator>fake cartier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had my &quot;sextant&quot; watches crown and stem replaced after being dumb and am very happy to get it back. My &quot;Dive&quot; watch still keeps good time and my Aeromatic chronograph arived.
It looks great! and for 200 bucks I doubt I could get a new automatic chronograph anywhere else.

I ran a &quot;time trial&quot; on my aeromatic watches for a week- the Sextant pilots watch performed the worst at a Consistant 22 seconds fast (plus or minus 3 seconds from this value). The Divers watch was bang on 10 seconds fast WITH NO VARIATION AT ALL (worn OR in box!!) for seven days.
The mechanical Chronograph was pretty accurate but not so consistant- it was between 5 seconds slow and 8 seconds fast per day. When WORN as oposed to left on its back it gains about 8 seconds a day.
While obviously not &quot;Chronometer&quot; grade these watches have proved to be relible and pretty consistant. There are no doubt better watches out there but I do not think that there are many of better VALUE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had my &#8220;sextant&#8221; watches crown and stem replaced after being dumb and am very happy to get it back. My &#8220;Dive&#8221; watch still keeps good time and my Aeromatic chronograph arived.<br />
It looks great! and for 200 bucks I doubt I could get a new automatic chronograph anywhere else.</p>
<p>I ran a &#8220;time trial&#8221; on my aeromatic watches for a week- the Sextant pilots watch performed the worst at a Consistant 22 seconds fast (plus or minus 3 seconds from this value). The Divers watch was bang on 10 seconds fast WITH NO VARIATION AT ALL (worn OR in box!!) for seven days.<br />
The mechanical Chronograph was pretty accurate but not so consistant- it was between 5 seconds slow and 8 seconds fast per day. When WORN as oposed to left on its back it gains about 8 seconds a day.<br />
While obviously not &#8220;Chronometer&#8221; grade these watches have proved to be relible and pretty consistant. There are no doubt better watches out there but I do not think that there are many of better VALUE.</p>
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		<title>By: toby s</title>
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		<dc:creator>toby s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting reading.  I love watches, only got a few but I&#039;ve only been collecting for about a year.  I, like many people, like the look of some rolexes and omegas but I find it hard to see the value in a steel watch for thousands of dollars.  The new rolexes I have seen are very well finished. Omegas are not quite so well finished, but still pretty good, on a par with good Seikos.  It seems to me that some of the extra cost of expensive watches comes from:
1.  Place of manufacture.  Swiss labour and japanese labour (i.e. grand seiko) is very expensive
2.  Construction method.  Carving cases and band pieces out of solid steel is much more energy intensive than casting pieces.
3.  Marketing.  This is the big one.  How many Rolex and Omega ads do you see in full coplur, often inside the front cover or on the back cover of magazines.  Seiko also advertise a lot, but they seem to wear more of the costs themselves.  

Please note I&#039;m not talking about genuinely high end hand made watches.  As somebody said above, these are likely to cost &gt;$50,000.

So if you have buckets of cash, I&#039;m sure it is great to go out and buy a Sea Dewller Deep Sea if you need a dive watch.  These are probably the ebst finished divers I&#039;ve seen, and I would love one.  But if you don&#039;t have the AU$13k it costs in my country as spare change, then maybe an argument could be made that divers which are nearly as good (in terms of finish adn functionality) can be had for $2000 (Seiko MM, Ball HC) or even $1,000 (Seiko Sumo), or $500 (seiko samurai).  

This has becoem a long winded rant (!) but the my actual point is I think it is obnoxious for rich people (or watch idiot savants who aren&#039;t even rich but are just brand suckers) to say x-brand is crap because rolex and omega are better. (omegas aren&#039;t even that great, but I won&#039;t go there!)  Many people love watches but can&#039;t afford a rolex.  Or can afford one but would ratehr spend the money on, say, a holiday, house extension, jewellery (real stuff with gold, platinum, diamonds) etc.  

Having said all this, I was going to buy a Rolex GMT recently until my GF and a couple of mates suggested it wasn&#039;t the smartest thing to do.  So I&#039;m going to build a patio.  And get me one of those Tauchmeister GMTs or the he valve divers (1000m) on ebay for like US$110 - $150.  Aeromatic and Tauchmeister have had mixed reviews above.  I am very curious about the watches, can&#039;t wait to try one out.  If it breaks it&#039;s not the end of the world, just a the price of a nice dinner out with my GF.  Bad points about the Tauches I can see so far:

1. Finish. Not as good as Seiko / Omega, definitely no Rolex!  Cases are cast not machined.  Dials are a bit chintzy. Hands are nothing flash.

2.  Folded end links (on GMT, diver has rubber strap).

3.  Mineral glass, not sapph.

4.  GMT is not real GMT, just a fourth hand.  i.e. can&#039;t be set independently from hour hand.  So you have to set the 24 hr time with the bezel.

On the plus side, the colours are pretty sweet.  The case of the 1000m diver is distinctive. I don&#039;t know anybody around here who has either of em.  I won&#039;t be afraid to wear it around (most of my watches are wrapped in plastic!).  I hope!  

So to all you other &quot;poor man&#039;s&quot; watch lovers, I&#039;m with you all!  It&#039;s arguably better to spend tens of 1000s of $$$ having a LIFE, rather than on a piece of steel (I amke an exception with gold - I LOVE gold! And you can SELL it if you have to becasue it has intrinsic value).  And spend a grand (or less, whatever you think is reasonable) on 3 or 4 interesting watches that make you smile.  

And to all the rich folf (or poor folk who want to look rich) who rave about rolexes and omegas and the like, seriously, we know they&#039;re good watches.  We&#039;ve all seen em, don&#039;t need you to tell us that.  But if you think they&#039;re THAT good (as in, $5 - 10k good), you&#039;re just having a tug of yourself.  Also fair enough.

But to then bag others because they have to (or choose to) buy cheap watches is tacky and uncouth.  I don&#039;t know about you but I dobn&#039;t walk around town telling poorer people I&#039;m richer than them.  Not very nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting reading.  I love watches, only got a few but I&#8217;ve only been collecting for about a year.  I, like many people, like the look of some rolexes and omegas but I find it hard to see the value in a steel watch for thousands of dollars.  The new rolexes I have seen are very well finished. Omegas are not quite so well finished, but still pretty good, on a par with good Seikos.  It seems to me that some of the extra cost of expensive watches comes from:<br />
1.  Place of manufacture.  Swiss labour and japanese labour (i.e. grand seiko) is very expensive<br />
2.  Construction method.  Carving cases and band pieces out of solid steel is much more energy intensive than casting pieces.<br />
3.  Marketing.  This is the big one.  How many Rolex and Omega ads do you see in full coplur, often inside the front cover or on the back cover of magazines.  Seiko also advertise a lot, but they seem to wear more of the costs themselves.  </p>
<p>Please note I&#8217;m not talking about genuinely high end hand made watches.  As somebody said above, these are likely to cost &gt;$50,000.</p>
<p>So if you have buckets of cash, I&#8217;m sure it is great to go out and buy a Sea Dewller Deep Sea if you need a dive watch.  These are probably the ebst finished divers I&#8217;ve seen, and I would love one.  But if you don&#8217;t have the AU$13k it costs in my country as spare change, then maybe an argument could be made that divers which are nearly as good (in terms of finish adn functionality) can be had for $2000 (Seiko MM, Ball HC) or even $1,000 (Seiko Sumo), or $500 (seiko samurai).  </p>
<p>This has becoem a long winded rant (!) but the my actual point is I think it is obnoxious for rich people (or watch idiot savants who aren&#8217;t even rich but are just brand suckers) to say x-brand is crap because rolex and omega are better. (omegas aren&#8217;t even that great, but I won&#8217;t go there!)  Many people love watches but can&#8217;t afford a rolex.  Or can afford one but would ratehr spend the money on, say, a holiday, house extension, jewellery (real stuff with gold, platinum, diamonds) etc.  </p>
<p>Having said all this, I was going to buy a Rolex GMT recently until my GF and a couple of mates suggested it wasn&#8217;t the smartest thing to do.  So I&#8217;m going to build a patio.  And get me one of those Tauchmeister GMTs or the he valve divers (1000m) on ebay for like US$110 &#8211; $150.  Aeromatic and Tauchmeister have had mixed reviews above.  I am very curious about the watches, can&#8217;t wait to try one out.  If it breaks it&#8217;s not the end of the world, just a the price of a nice dinner out with my GF.  Bad points about the Tauches I can see so far:</p>
<p>1. Finish. Not as good as Seiko / Omega, definitely no Rolex!  Cases are cast not machined.  Dials are a bit chintzy. Hands are nothing flash.</p>
<p>2.  Folded end links (on GMT, diver has rubber strap).</p>
<p>3.  Mineral glass, not sapph.</p>
<p>4.  GMT is not real GMT, just a fourth hand.  i.e. can&#8217;t be set independently from hour hand.  So you have to set the 24 hr time with the bezel.</p>
<p>On the plus side, the colours are pretty sweet.  The case of the 1000m diver is distinctive. I don&#8217;t know anybody around here who has either of em.  I won&#8217;t be afraid to wear it around (most of my watches are wrapped in plastic!).  I hope!  </p>
<p>So to all you other &#8220;poor man&#8217;s&#8221; watch lovers, I&#8217;m with you all!  It&#8217;s arguably better to spend tens of 1000s of $$$ having a LIFE, rather than on a piece of steel (I amke an exception with gold &#8211; I LOVE gold! And you can SELL it if you have to becasue it has intrinsic value).  And spend a grand (or less, whatever you think is reasonable) on 3 or 4 interesting watches that make you smile.  </p>
<p>And to all the rich folf (or poor folk who want to look rich) who rave about rolexes and omegas and the like, seriously, we know they&#8217;re good watches.  We&#8217;ve all seen em, don&#8217;t need you to tell us that.  But if you think they&#8217;re THAT good (as in, $5 &#8211; 10k good), you&#8217;re just having a tug of yourself.  Also fair enough.</p>
<p>But to then bag others because they have to (or choose to) buy cheap watches is tacky and uncouth.  I don&#8217;t know about you but I dobn&#8217;t walk around town telling poorer people I&#8217;m richer than them.  Not very nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still got my Tauchmeisteier &quot;divers&quot; watch and its survied swimming  pools, dish washing and being banged about in the garden and playing with kids. My &quot;sextant Pilot&quot; watch was working up until a week ago when I (My fault for being dumb) tore the crown and stem. Paying 40 bucks to get it repaired is still cheeper then nuying a new one. 
June 2006 was my first post here and those folks who claim Aeromatic / Tauchmeister make watches that die in three months are either very unlucky or abusing them some how!
All three of mine are A OK!!!
Waiting for an Aeromatic MECHANICAL Chronograph to arrive in the mail- for 200 bucks New I think i may actualy dare to wear it for everyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still got my Tauchmeisteier &#8220;divers&#8221; watch and its survied swimming  pools, dish washing and being banged about in the garden and playing with kids. My &#8220;sextant Pilot&#8221; watch was working up until a week ago when I (My fault for being dumb) tore the crown and stem. Paying 40 bucks to get it repaired is still cheeper then nuying a new one.<br />
June 2006 was my first post here and those folks who claim Aeromatic / Tauchmeister make watches that die in three months are either very unlucky or abusing them some how!<br />
All three of mine are A OK!!!<br />
Waiting for an Aeromatic MECHANICAL Chronograph to arrive in the mail- for 200 bucks New I think i may actualy dare to wear it for everyday.</p>
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		<title>By: hoopla</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoopla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 13:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Apparently very few of the writers above know anything about watches at all. Mechanical movements are complex items, made of often several hundreds moving parts working together in perfect harmony. You can’t manufacturing such pieces and place them in watches that costs below $100. And if you stumble across new mechanical watches in this price range you can be sure of only one thing: It’s garbage of the lowest possible quality.&quot;
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You obviously know absolutely nothing at all about engineering or manufacturing.

Mechanical watches are very simple and crude 400 year old technology. There are about 1/10 for engineering complexity. Mechanical movements have extremely low tolerances and are made of cheap common materials such as steel and brass. A high quality mechanical movement can easily be made for far less than $5. 

Virtually all watches under $50k are mass produced in highly automated factories. They aren&#039;t hand made at all. Rolex makes nearly a million automatic watches a year. More Rolex Submariners have been made than VW beetles or Model T Fords. 

The total materials cost for a top quality stainless steel watch is less than $10 including a sapphire crystal. 

A steel watch that costs $100 is probably overpriced let alone one that costs $10,000</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Apparently very few of the writers above know anything about watches at all. Mechanical movements are complex items, made of often several hundreds moving parts working together in perfect harmony. You can’t manufacturing such pieces and place them in watches that costs below $100. And if you stumble across new mechanical watches in this price range you can be sure of only one thing: It’s garbage of the lowest possible quality.&#8221;<br />
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<p>You obviously know absolutely nothing at all about engineering or manufacturing.</p>
<p>Mechanical watches are very simple and crude 400 year old technology. There are about 1/10 for engineering complexity. Mechanical movements have extremely low tolerances and are made of cheap common materials such as steel and brass. A high quality mechanical movement can easily be made for far less than $5. </p>
<p>Virtually all watches under $50k are mass produced in highly automated factories. They aren&#8217;t hand made at all. Rolex makes nearly a million automatic watches a year. More Rolex Submariners have been made than VW beetles or Model T Fords. </p>
<p>The total materials cost for a top quality stainless steel watch is less than $10 including a sapphire crystal. </p>
<p>A steel watch that costs $100 is probably overpriced let alone one that costs $10,000</p>
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